If you have any actual information, why not post a link to it here, instead of conducting the online version of a whisper campaign? Vague rumor-mongering does no one any favors.
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Oh, I see you want insult and start a fight with me over the Bastianichâs. Typical. Lately I wonder which side your bread is buttered.
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Google âBastianich controversyâ. Itâs not difficult to find the issues that I recall being reported in the news at large.
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I did. He said some stupid shit and apologized after Grubstreet called him on it. Is there something out there more damning than that?
Oh Iâm sure of it . Its rampant in the world . Itâs only noted because because of his high profile and being in the media. I worked in a granola factory and it was happening there .
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Thatâs up to you and what you want to believe. I saw more than what you mentioned. Wage theft, B&B boys club, bait&switch. Iâm not one to follow the people stuff/goings-on in the food industry. But when they come to light in the general news, itâs hard not to pay attention.
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If this has actually âcome to light in the general news,â I would welcome the opportunity to read about it. I donât disbelieve you. I just find it very odd that thereâs a lot of nudging and winking in this part of the thread, and very little of this:
i.e., copy that we can review ourselves, without depending on oblique intimations.
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All of the mentioned issues DID make the news - apparent by the hits and where these were reported. Again - I donât follow this stuff so Iâm not informed from a-z on these issues - but the items are there for anyone to see.
One lawsuit appears to have been initially avoided by settling out of court. The bait&switch lawsuit was initially dismissed then appealed. Not sure where it went from there. Another item was employees accusing Mario AND Joe of forming a boyâs club environment.
Again - itâs what you (or anyone else) wants to believe. But a couple of expressions come to mind: âWhere thereâs smoke, thereâs fire,â and âbirds of a featherâŚâ
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Itâs called discretion. We were discretely trying to say there is legitimate stuff out there about the family you may have missed. Iâm not starting stuff. Itâs out there! Whatâs with the personal attacks? Believe it or donât believe it. Google it or donât google it. Patronize their restaurants or donât patronize their restaurants. Who gives a f_ck? I donât even know you.
P.S. @robert, heâs admitted to knowing more than you wrote, which makes you not confused but obtuse. So while youâre regurgitating his press release you should quote him accurately.
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This seems like an example of the Mandela Effect to me.
If anyone accused Bastianich of any sexually inappropriate behavior, Eater, the Daily News, and the other news sources that have been covering the accusations against Batali would be all over it.
Bastianich has explicitly denied having known anything about Bataliâs misbehavior other than inappropriate speech, and he apologized for not having challenged Batali about that. Again, if there was a scrap of evidence that that was not true, or even hearsay from someone in a position to know, Eater et al. would be all over it.
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Oh, please. Itâs not what I want to believe. Itâs what you have evidence to support. I provided a link to the the (moderately damning) story I found. I donât know what âbait&switch lawsuitâ youâre talking about, but if itâs been reported, why not lead me to some reporting from some actual reporters?
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Discretion would be NOT POSTING ANYTHING AT ALL. What youâre engaging in is rumor-mongering. If thereâs âlegitimate stuff out thereâ that I may have missed, by all means, point me to it. Otherwise youâre just blowing smoke.
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Really? You canât read any of the Google hits? If I donât attach the hits here, they donât exist? You win.
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You seem like a clever person. Hint: plaintiff claims Lidia promises plaintiff one thing - gets something else; thus lawsuit. The lawsuit really exists. Look it up. Oh - forgot - I didnât attach it so it doesnât exist. You win.
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A: Bastianich did x
B: Oh really? I have read about y, but I havenât seen anything about x.
A: Oh, well look harder. He did x1, x2, and x3.
B: Iâm looking. I donât see anything. Source please?
A: Itâs obvious, just look.
B: Iâm looking! I donât see anything.
A: Ugh, do I have to Google it for you?
B: Yes, please.
A: No.
Itâs completely beyond me how someone can have the energy to repeatedly suggest performing a google search while simultaneously being either unable or unwilling to perform said google search himself.
@small_h and @Starchtrade, I mentioned already that I canât vouch with any certainty of the accusations made against them. When I refer to believing whatever you want to, take this literally. I want others to judge these issues on their own. Posting a source on any particular issue most likely wonât do any justice either way. Heck - I may even be accused of bias since you already have shown doubts to the validity of what the family is accused of for the simple fact of not attaching articles. I will say for myself that I personally suspect at least some truth exists.
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This is a very reasonable take (and you might consider leading with it next time!).
Disagree, respectfully, as it will at least provide third party support for any assertions you make.
Thereâs so much stupidity in this thread.
Just because something is on the Internet doesnât make it factually correct. And just because something canât be found on the Internet doesnât make it unfactual.
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Time to lock it