Chocolate Chip Cookie Death Match

LOL. I’m not a huge sweets eater.

Wifey and I go out for ice cream and I’m happy taking one or two tastes of hers. Yet, I love ice cream. Go figure.

So I don’t go all over town looking for cookies. I bake them (and then rarely eat any). My wife is an NP so I bake for her and her coworkers at UCLA.

But… I too loved Stella Barra. It’s been a long time. I’ve never been to the location in Santa Monica so I do not know how they are there.

This thread however, has inspired me to check out a few places.

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Share your cookie recipe

I am no expert. I’m sure there are better bakers here like @TheCookie and @Happybaker and @Dommy, et al.

I just do original toll house with a couple of alterations. Know that I like my cookies to spread, not the thick ones. I can say that when I bake them, most people are shocked and in disbelief that they are based on toll house.

  1. Cream the hell out of the butter sugar mixture.
  2. Instead of using just semi sweet morsels use semi sweet chunks, semi sweet morsels, and milk chocolate morsels.
  3. I skip the nuts
  4. Refrigerate dough overnight
  5. Use the technique from above
  6. Dough should be kept cold right until the minute it goes to the oven
  7. Bake on parchment PAPER
  8. Bake a minute or two longer than what the recipe says but not more than when you see the edges get color. Mine come out crispy but soft inside.
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Good tips.

Don’t let the name fool ya’. :wink: I have a few uncomplicated recipes under my belt.

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Good tip. Creaming the hell out of the sugar and butter is key. It took me a very long time to figure this out. Makes a huge difference.

A lot of recipes call for both granulated and brown sugar so I’ve been doing that as well.

Use good baking chocolate. I’ve tried a bunch and our favorite is the valharona. Anybody else have a favorite type of baking chocolate?

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Batch Two

Botanica

The chocolate pecan cookie is a neighborhood cookie from a neighborhood restaurant. First though, a tangent on nuts in chocolate chip cookies… there are people out there that are opposed to nuts in cookies and brownies if it’s not specifically built around that nut, like a peanut cookie. I’m not one of those people—if a cookie wants to have nuts in it let it be—at the very least it adds another dimension. Now that’s out of the way, this cookie does multiple things to tweak the formula. It’s soft baked and doesn’t have much crisp, but the spelt and whole wheat flour create a depth of flavor that goes in a different direction than what’d you’d expect from a neighborhood spot. In addition, the chunks of bittersweet chocolate and toasty pecans show it’s reaching just higher than your expectations while staying in your comfort zone.

Go Get Em Tiger

Soft, appropriately salty, and so so greasy. Picking it up, it’s basically shouting there’s a lot of butter in here, as if the spread wasn’t enough to tip you off. This also sort of leaves the chocolate clumped together and unevenly distributed as @film_score2 points out. That means you get some epic bites loaded with chocolate, and other bites you wish were those epic bites.

Clementine

As @paranoidgarliclover, @mchen , and @TheCookie, pointed out, this cookie is a masterclass in the fundamentals. It’s not getting cute with any of the ingredients, but it does everything right from the crisp edges, layered chocolate chunks, and chewy center. It’s the level of execution on each individual element with no flaws that is incredible.

Patisserie Chantilly

These small cookies push against all other mainstream chocolate chip cookies. They share the same basic ingredients (plus walnuts) but whereas others are large, wide, and flat, these are tiny, narrow, and tall. The result is a highly consistent, uniformly cooked cookie. That fits the MO of Patisserie Chantilly, where high quality bites demand precise execution. While that means the entire pack (there are 5 small cookies) doesn’t have any duds, it also looses that spontaneous excitement of other cookies. Moreover, it also just doesn’t feel indulgent, and when placed among all of Patisserie Chantilly’s other offerings, this cookie is really only for your 2 year old niece that only has the pallet for dino chicken nuggets, mac and cheese, and chips-a-hoy. Though she might still be upset at the walnuts.

Lemonade

The corporate cookie. But also quite a tasty cookie. I got to hand it to Lemonade who really could have just coasted with a checks-the-boxes cookie for the office working crowd just trying to get some afternoon sugar after eating their desk salad (no shade to Lemonade—I actually love them). So yes, this is really a paint by the numbers cookie in taste and flavor, but it’s also outstanding in texture. It’s packed with chocolate and perfectly underdone throughout until just the edges. It also comes wrapped in plastic and if they’re baked fresh this might actually keep it wonderfully soft. It may not be a cookie you go out of your way for, but when it comes to a dessert that will ruin the healthy lunch you just had, it’s worth the hit.

Kismet Rotisserie

I wanted to check out the tahini chocolate chip cookie at @lilmikey’s recommendation, and I definitely tasted the nuttiness of the tahini, which makes me wonder about the consistency between batches. The tahini is a nice complement to the chocolate and salt. The most interesting thing is it’s a bit airy and feels lighter than others, yet still is not crispy or crunchy or hard. It gets the job done and the texture exceeded my expectations.

Sqirl

A solid all around cookie with bittersweet layers of chocolate and no traces of mold. I get the sense that this cookie really is just filler in the pastry case, because there are lots of other great, more interesting things that Sqirl turns out. At least that means there won’t be any debate over who’s recipe this is, just because it’s so middle of the road. Though the rogue spreading does give it an extra charm.

Whole Foods

The Brown Butter Chocolate Chip cookie from Whole Foods is probably easy to overlook. However, it’s got a great flavor from the browned butter and actually has one of the deepest pure chocolate flavors of cookies sampled. Add on a great texture and all of a sudden it’s an extremely competent cookie. It’s probably not one you’ll go across town for, but also one you won’t need to with the number of Whole Foods in town.

Gjusta

When I opened this up, it was immediately apparent that this cookies shares the same DNA as the Fat + Flour chocolate chip cookie. This makes sense since Chef Rucker used to run the show there, but Gjusta’s version is just not quite as good. It has those same elements: quality chocolate, little flecks of oats, nice spread, but there’s also a je ne sais quoi that separates them. Maybe it’s that the Fat + Flour version is a little bit buttery-er or a little bit saltier or a little bit chewier :man_shrugging: The Gjusta chocolate chip oatmeal cookie is by no means a miss and still great, and if that’s what’s in your neighborhood you can’t go wrong. It’s also just that there’s another one on the other side of town that’s essentially the same but better.

Ototo

Noticing the young cookie as part of Ototo’s new ice cream sandwich, I asked Courtney if I could get one sans ice cream to get a pure take on it. It’s billed as a miso chocolate chip cookie, and the miso is immediately apparent, creating the most unique and incredible flavor of the cookies I’ve had. It’s got an interesting orange hue and is also cakier, which I really dug. I know pastry chef Gemma Matsuyama has been crushing it lately, but with the ubiquity of the chocolate chip cookie, it’s easy to see how this one could go overlooked. Cream puffs will get all the attention, but this cookie might be her most under the radar item. Don’t sleep on it.

The journey continues…

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Tried it. The cookie felt like the star of the sandwich, but the addition of the relatively lackluster hojicha ice cream totally diminished both the cookie and the ice cream experience for me. Maybe I’ll grab just the cookie next time at Aozora, as you’ve done.

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It’s a bit disappointing to hear about the sandwich, but yeah give just the cookie a go and report back how it stacks up!

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Chocolate Chip Cookie from Ggiata’s Delicatessen. Wonder from where they are sourced.

No. Just… no. Had that burnt taste like way too much molasses from maybe dark brown sugar. Plus dark underside.

Looked like they did my cookie trick for texture.

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No. Ggiast… no.

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:rofl:

I liked this visual representation of the different styles. I think I’m going to try the baking soda + baking powder + refrigerated dough using 2 types of sugar next time I make cookies.

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(With apologies for the thread drift): have any home bakers here tried the pan-banging technique?

Non-paywall original recipe:

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My L.A. favorite is/was Proof Bakery (it’s been several years since I last consumed their CCC).

Another NYT article (with attached recipe) published this week for the “Perfect” Chocolate Chip Cookie. No vanilla. Feel free to move to home cooking.

A ‘Perfect’ Chocolate Chip Cookie, and the Chef Who Created It

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I love Milk Jar’s chocolate chip cookie - more the “extra flour” type, quoting the super handy diagram @js76wisco shared. Thick with a gooey center and big chunks of chocolate. It’s not really chewy at the edges although some time in the toaster oven helps.

As mentioned above, Paderia’s cookies are awesome too. They manage to be both thick/gooey in the middle and chewy on the edge.

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I like Milk Jar Cookies a lot, and I like supporting local small mom ‘n pops (literally, it’s a husband and wife team), so it checks the boxes. My problems are that I can taste too much baking soda and because they’re thick & kinda’ fluffy they’re sometimes better the next day or zapped in the toaster oven. Also, they charge the same price per cookie even when you buy dozens, so it makes giving them as holiday gifts, etc. too pricey for me. M2C.

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Totally agree about the toaster oven/next day thing, letting them dry out/harden a bit. I see what you mean about the baking soda thing - dunno enough about baking, but I suppose that’s necessary to get the texture they’re going for? Also, you are very generous getting cookies for others in the dozens, but I suppose that makes sense given your username! These are so huge, I’ve only ever gotten them in batches of 3-6, even as gifts. Per my username, I do go a little crazier with donuts.

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Thanks @glazedonut! Good point about the baking soda & texture. Since they make the cookies thick possibly the baking soda is needed to get that rise? Good point about the cookies being big too - maybe a whole dozen of these isn’t needed for gifts. :thinking: But my name is deceiving - I have a few good recipes under my belt and when I had more time baked for the holidays, but I‘m not a very experienced baker. :relaxed:

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Batch Three

Keepers

Recently opened on the corner of 2nd and Los Angeles, and having walked by a number of times, I decided to check out Keeper’s coffee window advertising a number of pastries. The bottom line: it’s fine. There’s a nice crisp on the edges, and it’s completely inoffensive with a solid flavor. But compared to some of the other things the small window at Keepers has available like mochi doughnuts, blueberry yuzu scones, and black sesame muffins, it sort of stands out for not trying something more interesting.

Bristol Farms

JFC. Right when this dropped in my hands I knew I was eating this in the parking lot because it was so damn hot and fresh. As @paranoidgarliclover mentioned, it’s incredibly decadent. If I had to guess, I’d say it could be 85% chocolate chips and wouldn’t be surprised if the remainder was 5% walnuts and 10% dough. Taking a bite through the crisp exterior crust revealed it to be basically uncooked and molten in the center. If this is wrong, I don’t want to be right. Even though I still felt like I wanted to take a shower afterwards.

Zooies

I’d had Zooies a couple times (but never visited the gas station location myself) and knew from previous cookies I had to make a trip out of it.

Zooies: Gooie

They’re not kidding when they say it’s gooey. If you like your cookies undercooked in the middle like me, this is a near flawless execution. It still maintained crisp edges, and taking into account the layered chocolate and hint of vanilla, it’s not hard to recognize this as one of the best cookies in the city.

Zooies: Chewy

I hadn’t knowingly had the Chewy before, so when I asked how it was different (hoping for a description of ingredients or technique) the response I got was “it’s chewier”. So yes, it’s a bit chewier, and because it lacks the gooeiness of the Gooie, the chocolate stands out as a bit more proportionally significant. The flavors are largely similar though, and for that reason of textural preference I’d go with the Gooie every time.

Zooies: Brown Butter

The Brown Butter was the only other thoroughbred chocolate chip cookie on Zooies menu, but with that extra brown butter training. Getting the taste out of the way first, it’s a solid chocolate chip cookie, though the brown butter flavor was maybe a bit too subdued because I was wishing it would distinguish itself more from the other two cookies. The big difference was the consistency—it was much airier and lighter than I anticipated—with a couple big pockets of air. The cakiness is fine is that’s what you’re looking for, but personally I did not find it as remarkable as the Gooie.

For what it’s worth, Zooies is a one stop shop for demonstrating the diversity to be found in chocolate chip cookies–each is distinct enough to justify standing apart from the others. However, if you’re getting a handful of cookies from Zooies, it is probably best to choose your favorite chocolate chip and then branch out to many of the different, more exciting flavors they have on offer.

The Chocolate and the Chip

I spotted the Chocolate and the Chip online, and knew that if there was a chocolate chip cookie specialist (it’s literally in the name) that I needed to include them.

The Chocolate and The Chip: The Original

This is the kind of cookie you’d be pleasantly surprised to find on the snack table at a PTA meeting. It absolutely checks all the boxes with a classic flavor profile that doesn’t do anything wild, but that’s about it. The original chocolate chip cookie is cooked all the way through, with no real crispness to the edges or chewiness in the center to speak of. Not to jump the gun, but after having the other cookies on offer from The Chocolate and The Chip, I get the feeling that because this is the table stakes cookie, it was probably baked farther in advance than the others and might have not been as “fresh”. Still, it’s easy to see the potential here in a cookie that’s fresh out of the oven.

The Chocolate and The Chip: Lavender

Now this is interesting. The lavender flavor really comes through in a fantastic way here, and overall the cookie seems much better executed than the original: it’s chewier and even a bit chocolatey-er. There’s also no real crisp or crunch to the edges here, but with a super soft center, it’s still a winner.

The Chocolate and The Chip: Pumpkin Chocolate Chip

This was the flavor of the week, and you can tell that there was a lot that went into it. Laced with marshmallows and caramel, this is one gooey chocolate chip cookie. Similar to the Lavender, the pumpkin flavor here is off the charts and perfect for this time of year. Yet again—and this now seems to be The Chocolate and The Chip’s MO—this cookie is soft baked but to super chewy and dense perfection.

Though I could take or leave the Original, It’s cookies like the Pumpkin and the Lavender that make The Chocolate and The Chip exciting. Be on the lookout for those special flavors.

Blue Bottle Coffee

Blue Bottle’s tahini chocolate chip cookie isn’t kidding about the tahini. It’s got little bits of chocolate scattered throughout, but unlike others doing similarly sesame (tahini/halva) inflected chocolate chip cookies, this one emphasizes the tahini nearly to the extreme. It’s even got raw sesame seeds on top, and just leans on the chocolate chips to balance it out. It’s got a fair crispness to it, but it’s also still chewy. If you give this to a child and they’ll hand it back to you asking for a chocolate chip cookie.

Tartine Silver Lake

For those that may have missed it, this is the same cookie that was on the menu at the now closed Manufactory. I liked it back then, and was pleased to see it had made the jump to the Tartine Silver Lake location. It’s thin, crispy, and a bit crunchy, with the standout element being the finely chopped walnuts evenly distributed throughout the cookie. Instead of larger, broken chunks of walnut found in many other chocolate chip cookies, the walnuts here add a much more pronounced and noticeable flavor. The nut becomes a feature, not a bug. It’s also a BIG cookie, but it doesn’t feel overwhelming because it’s also extremely thin.

All day baby

Contrasted to the Halva Chocolate Chip cookie that can also be found at All Day Baby, the Brown Butter Chocolate Chip is much less dense and closer to the mainstream. The airy texture and slight nuttiness from the brown butter obviously lacks the intensity of halva chocolate chip from batch one. This cookie also uses milk chocolate. There is some intense layering of chocolate as you work your way to the center—culminating in what seems like a small chocolate mountain in the center. All put together it seems like this cookie would be perfectly paired with a glass of milk.

Onward we go…

Batch One

Batch Two

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New life goal: figure out how to work this into my obituary, or memoirs, or something.

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